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Money and Blogging Y’all!!!

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Here comes the money (Here we go, money, Uh). Here comes the money. Money, Money, Money, Money.
Money, Money, Money, Money.

Happy sunny sweltering Sunday everyone! Today I thought I’d look at charging for book reviews.

Yes, I know the topic has already been covered in eloquent fashion by another blogger earlier in the week. But when the topic was brought up in a Facebook group the previous week, I decided that it was a subject I could muse on and write a post about. Alas, I’d already written my Pressures of Book Blogging post for that week (one discussion post per week is more than enough when I struggle for ANY ideas). Add in my constant love affair with procrastination and that I purchased Horizon Zero Dawn for the PS4.

Due to the fact that I’m such a mature man-child, the game has been taking up most of my time and as such, the post has taken a while to write!

Ching Ching, Bling Bling, Cut the Chatter
You ain’t talking money, Then your talking don’t matter.
Ching Ching, Bling Bling, Pattin’ Pockets.
You make a dolla dolla, Can’t a damn soul stop it.
Shock it, Uhhh.

Due to a post in a Facebook group (as I mentioned above, I’ve not forgotten, I’m not that old yet, just recapping) it came to my attention that a blogger was charging for reviews for books by indie authors. I was subsequently told that another couple of bloggers were also charging for reviews and I’ve seen a few bloggers asking both ‘if‘ they can and ‘how‘ they can make money from book blogging.

Let’s address these bloggers asking if and how you can make money from book blogging first, as it’s perhaps the easiest point. These aren’t bloggers with years experience and a loyal fan base, oh no, these are new bloggers, no followers, content or experience asking to make money straight away.

Sure, it could be purely innocent and a valid question, I don’t know! But, it could also be that they see book blogging as an easy way to make some quick cash – yeah, I sniggered when I wrote that as blogging isn’t easy, it takes time and effort.

ARC’s are always a topic of discussion in the book blogging community and when new bloggers ask about them they are often told to grow their blog, read and review their own books, etc and yes, those are valid and true points. Don’t worry friends this isn’t an ARC rant! I’m merely saying that ARC’s are a bone of contention when new bloggers enquire about them and surely, making money through book blogging should be seen as the same when new bloggers ask about it?!? Probably even worse! To be met with a WTF?! Are you drunk?! What have you been smoking some Snoop Dogg special blend?!

Let’s put this out there, if you start a book blog with the sole purpose of making money from it, you will be disappointed, it’s no ‘this time next year Rodney, we’ll be millionaires!‘ – Only Fools and Horses reference for you young kids.

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You do realise that you have to declare any earnings you make on your blog, it’s not a backhander, cash in hand type of shifty deal.

More importantly, however, you will be starting a blog for the wrong reasons and in the process giving us genuine bloggers a bad name and reputation! Uncool, very very uncool! I’m quite capable of ruining my own reputation and blog without some chancer after a quick buck doing it for me.

Here’s an idea, start a blog and for your very first post give an itemised list of prices for the services (hand job, blow job, sex, orgy, anal, SORRY! wrong services, my mistake, as the blogger is going to whore their blog out I presumed that was what they are, it’s all good, both man and women can sell it. But I meant book services, excerpt, guest post, interview and review – there, that’s better far more decent services) that you offer and see what feedback you get from your fellow book bloggers, authors and publishers. Would you charge by the follower?! The number of likes?! Comments?! Page views?! Words?! Just a standard hourly rate?! You’ll have to let me know if pimpin is easy?!?

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Hang on, that’s a great idea! The second film sucked but I have to admit that I did enjoy the original Deuce Bigalow. Maybe it’s time for a third film! Deuce Bigalow: Book Blogging Gigolo! I’ll have to email the actor and pitch him my idea, though I want some creative control on the script and a producer credit! πŸ™‚

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Now, Deuce is a male character and I don’t want to leave all you ladies out, so I offer you the female alternative: Bertha Biggun’s Book Bonking. πŸ™‚

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So, all sarcasm aside and let me get real serious for a second. If you are thinking of starting a book blog just for money, then please don’t, book bloggers are book lovers, not money mongers!

Now, let’s look at established bloggers who want to try and make some money from blogging. These aren’t the chancers starting out, these are bloggers who have garnered a following and gained a respected reputation within the book blogging community who simply, want to earn some money but is this a valid idea or are they overestimating their reach and suffering from delusions of grandeur that authors would want to pay them?!?

I think the question is if you earn money from your blog (I don’t mean affiliate links to Book Depository and Amazon or adverts) does it take what is a hobby and turn it into a job? After all, we don’t get paid for our hobbies but we do for our jobs.

I’ll get to charging for reviews in a moment, that’s the main point of the post anyway as a review is your thoughts and feelings on a book and it is personal to you. If you’re paid for those would they change?!? It’s objectification as you are involving yourself in the equation, it’s not just your blog and an author making an exchange of money for services, you are adding yourself and your views into the mix.

Obviously, as book bloggers, you all know that we offer a variety of different posts and not just reviews, guest posts, spotlights, interviews and book excerpts. So, would it matter charging for them as we are getting nothing (apart from a post we have to draft and post) in return for our time and blog space?!? Do any of you charge for these types of posts?!?

Should a blogger be vilified for charging for those types of posts?!? After all, if they aren’t going to review the book that’s featured then they have no personal stake in the transaction, author, book and post. Let’s not forget that indie authors (unless they organise it themselves) pay for blog tours too and what is a blog tour?!? A selection of blogs featuring various posts to promote a book. Authors pay someone to organise a blog tour, bloggers say yes, they’d love to take part and receive no money. The money goes into the pockets of the blog tour organiser – which is fair enough, it’s a job for them and they will put a lot of effort into creating the tour (any blog tour organisers reading this I’m not having a go at you, merely trying to look at all sides and points).

Surely, you could ask, if an author is prepared to pay for a whole blog tour, should they not be prepared to pay for a post on a blog?!? You could say that we get a ‘free‘ copy of the book or are offered a copy, but what if we don’t want the book and decline?!? Then we are getting nothing for our blog space and time.

I’ve had a few authors on my blog for interviews, guest posts and book excerpts and as I’m not open to review requests, I always decline a copy of the book even when offered on a read it whenever/if you want basis. I hadn’t thought of charging for posts and I won’t. I’m happy to try and help authors out (it’d be nice if you sent all the links with the post/excerpt though, finding them isn’t my responsibility).

I’m just trying to look at all aspects of making money on a blog to give you a fully rounded view and not make this post seem like I’m ostracising anyone who does charge for various posts. At the end of the day, it’s your own personal choice if you do or do not charge, whether I think it’s right or wrong, I’m a firm believer in the mantra of ‘my blog, my rules‘ and the same applies to you and everyone else ‘your blog, your rules‘.

Onto paid for reviews.

If you want to make money from reviewing perhaps it’s best to not be just a ‘book blogger‘ with a book blog but to be a ‘book reviewer‘ and write reviews for a syndicated magazine, newspaper or website. Though, let’s be fair, a certain paid for website (Star Trek captain and ends with us) charges ($250 that’s the amount I was told) for reviews and often they suck and are short, bland and boring with no personality. Perfect grammar can go fuck itself if the actual review sends you to sleep whilst reading it.

The big question is if we start charging for reviews, can we really continue to review objectively?!?

When you bring money into something it makes for murky waters. Would your followers believe the review knowing that you got paid for it?!? you continue to review honestly?!? Would it cloud your opinion and you find that you start writing only positive reviews as they would bring in more money?!? I’m guessing that authors wouldn’t want to pay for a negative review, especially not when some act like a baby who has kicked their toy out of their pram and soiled themselves when they get a ‘free‘ negative review anyway. Authors, not everyone can like every book, your book might not be for someone, doesn’t mean that another person won’t love it. You can’t all be the next GRRM, Stephen King, J.K. Rowling or E.L James and there isn’t a book that’s been released that hasn’t received a negative review – if I’m wrong please tell me as I’d love to know if there really is a book (any genre, fiction or non-fiction) that is out there with no bad publicity whatsoever.

I do think that even if you charged for reviews that you could still review objectively. To me, it’s not really about the money, it’s more a question of whether you are genuine and honest or not. If you are genuine and review honestly, then even if you get paid for reviewing, if you are a decent person you would still be that same honest reviewer you were back before you were rolling in cash. It’s whether you’d sell your integrity and lie about books just to make money from blogging.

Some might say that we get paid in ‘free‘ books, yes, that might be true, in essence, but with those ‘free‘ books we write our own quality reviews and help promote the book in the best ways that we can. I’m loathed to say that we get ‘free‘ books as payment, as what a lot of non-bloggers don’t realise is the time and effort that we put in when we receive these books. And, a ‘free‘ book doesn’t immediately mean that we will like the book or even that we will review it, it isn’t a form of payment.

From a personal standpoint, I’d have to question the validity of a paid for review on a book blog.

I personally prefer blogger reviews to the paid for reviews that I read (not just books but games, TV shows and films). You get a far more personal experience with the blogger and can feel the passion and love for books that they have in their review.

To a blogger, a review isn’t a job, it’s part of a hobby and it even transcends that, to a book lover simply sharing their love of books.

I also need to ask, what would you even consider charging for a blog post or review?!?! I haven’t a clue and as Ted Dibiase used to say ‘everybody’s got a price‘.

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I know that other types of bloggers, lifestyle, beauty, consumer products, etc regularly get both a product to review and paid for the actual review. No-one seems to question them over that, it seems to be part of their blogging community and expected. Why should book bloggers be any different in wanting to make some money when these other types of bloggers do?!?

I think perhaps that one of the big differences is that we deal with indie authors. And, those types of bloggers deal with companies that are making money and can easily pay a small fee and send a sample product to review. For lots of Indie authors writing is a hobby (like blogging for us) and they often have day jobs too, trying to carve out a career in writing in their spare time. It just seems wrong to expect Indie authors to pay for any type of post on our blogs when they are struggling themselves and their book might not even have made a profit. A review or blog post does guarantee and gives you promotion and publicity. However, it does not guarantee any increase in sales and if you paid for something, chances are that you would be expecting a positive outcome.

It’s a sort of kinship between us both, authors and bloggers together. As bloggers, we want to try and help authors in some small way.

Simply put, we enjoy reading and if there were no authors, there would be no books for us to read.

I have to admit that I’d never considered charging for reviews or any type of posts on my blog, I didn’t start a blog to make money, sad as it sounds and even though I know I’m very much an outcast on the outskirts of the community. I started my blog to feel like I was with like-minded people and to be part of something.


Side note, I thought that we are supposed to declare if we received a book from an author or publisher to review?!? Because I’ve recently seen a few reviews for books that aren’t released yet with no disclaimer. Obviously, the blogger hasn’t purchased them, unless there’s a black market in not yet released books?!? If there is who do I contact to hook me up with a copy of Winds of Winter and The Doors of Stone?!? πŸ˜‰


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113 thoughts on “Money and Blogging Y’all!!!

  1. As you can imagine, I loved the wrestling tie-ins. Bedore I started reading the post I decided to think less of you if Shane McMahon’s theme tune didn’t feature somewhere πŸ˜†

    Personally, I feel that unless you work for a magazine/paper etc … the only ethical way you can and should make money from your FREE blog is to use Amazon Affiliate links. People who charge for reviews aren’t worth what a pig could spit, let alone the cost of their reviews, in my opinions.

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    1. Ha, I do like to include wrestling tie-ins, makes for some fun! πŸ™‚ And, obviously Shane McMahon’s theme would have to be included!!!

      Totally agree, if you work for a magazine, paper, etc then it’s all good to charge for reviews but when you have a free blog, nah, it’s a hobby not a money making scheme.

      I’m fairly sure you have to acquire Β£50 in affiliate links before Amazon pay out, can;t see that ever happening for me!

      Though, if we get Y-A and romance authors asking us for reviews a quick reply saying we charge should stop them from emailing again! πŸ™‚

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    1. Times change for everything though I’m not really up on beta readers I thought that some did it just because they want to and others did it as a service. if they class it as a service then I guess that’s why they’d try and charge, i don’t really know.

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      1. I’m wondering if the book bloggers who think they can charge for a review also believe they are doing a service, which, as you said, if it’s part of a tour, it could be considered such. It seems to be getting a tad murky.

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      1. I’ve always done that too, it’s just to give the person reading your review all the information. I hope that over time people who follow my blog will see that I haven’t loved every ‘free’ book I’ve received, showing my opinions are honest and it builds trust.

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      2. I thought we were supposed to do that anyway but recently as i said in the post people seem to be forgetting to do it and as the books aren’t out yet they obviously haven’t bought them!

        Yeah, i haven’t loved every free book either, i tend to pick what I read so most of my reviews are positive but I do have a few negative ones to.

        I remembered the WWE references in this post! πŸ™‚

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    1. You’re definitely supposed to write in your review (visibly and I think near the top) if you received the book for review because it counts as compensation and is in some ways a sponsored post because the publisher/author has given you something in exchange for it. I have heard from multiple publishing professionals (magazines but also books) that the FTC is really cracking down on “influencers” like people on Instagram who are receiving compensation for promoting products in some way. Now, many of these people are actually getting paid in money and not just products (like beauty or fashion Instagrammers), and the FTC is probably going to focus on big names getting big money, but the idea of needing to disclose that you received something in order to write the post is the same, even if it’s just an ARC.

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      1. I thought I was right, shocker!πŸ˜‚

        Yeah, from what I’ve read its supposed to be near the top and I believe it’s also to do with, if you just write a review it’s implied that you purchased the book and you’re supposed to disclose if you received it for review due to that. I think most bloggers do it but I’ve seen a couple of reviews recently for books I know aren’t out and no where did it state where the book came from.

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      2. I think some people really don’t know they’re supposed to disclose sources, so it’s good to bring up in blogging conversations once in a while.

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  2. I have a blogger friend who has a list of services on her site. She considers herself a “paid reviewer” even though she really has no follower base. I don’t even read her reviews anymore bc she posts the entire book. She said she got paid $125 recently from an indie author and I was appalled. Yes, we are all in need of money, but what kind of person are you? Even her main page has a fee breakdown and she accepts “donations” if the author is happy with the review. 🀒 (That’s me getting sick)
    It’s one thing to become, say, a professional reviewer, as you mentioned, and so your time would be so valuable that you would have to have an income stream of some sort. A lot of people consider beta reading as a paid job. Personally I don’t mix business with pleasure: I found out awhile back that there were some high profile authors that “bought” reviews on Amazon and that you can buy good reviews in packages of 50 or something…apparently you can even buy followers! WHY??? πŸ™„πŸ™„πŸ™„
    I hate this topic bc people feel like they should be able to make money off this. I don’t. So we don’t get along. But I usually keep my mouth shut bc as you said, I don’t want to compare book reviews to prostitution. πŸ˜‚πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

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    1. How much?!?!?!?!? F#ck me!!!! It would have to be the best review ever at that price and how many books would the indie author have to sell to cover that fee and how many books would be sold due to that review?!?!?!?

      Sh#t that is a lot, utterly shocked, I had read $75 as an amount someone asked for but that is another $50 on top!!!

      If she is a paid reviewer then she should work for a magazine or paper or website and not have a book blog, simple.

      I’m not up with beta reading, I know some bloggers do it for free, etc and then I have read that people also class it as a service and charge for it.

      I’m not surprised that people can buy good reviews, etc. As you say, you can even buy followers, not sure why anyone would want to do that, they wouldn’t interact anyway and I have enough normal followers anyway who don’t interact without paying for more after al I am poor!

      Lol, I might have implied that Stephy but no where did I use the term ‘prostitution’ in the post, merely implied and added a couple of sweet graphics. πŸ˜‰

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      1. Hahahahaha! Yes, you’re right, it was implied. Wink, wink. Love the graphics.
        I never understood the buying of followers bc can’t they just follow and unfollow and be like, “screw you and thanks for the money?” Makes no sense to me. People are nuts.
        I’ll send you the link to the blog so you can see what I’m talking about while also keeping the anonymity of the person. I don’t want to just say, “here’s the link!” πŸ˜‚
        I’ll send it in a DM and just click on the menu to see the “price list.”

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      2. Thanks, I though the graphics added some fun to the post. πŸ˜‰

        Yeah, it’s crazy and I don’t get it either to be honest, as you say what’s to stop them just unfollowing anyway but you can buy twitter followers too, it’s a crazy world we live in if people have spare money to buy followers! 😦

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    2. The donations for good reviews sketches me out more than asking to be paid for reviews. I think it’s hard to be paid for reviews and be honest, but it’s possible. If people can make it work and not just have authors go to reviewers who work for free..good for them, I guess. But the donations bit makes it seem less honest and really like a “Pay me for 5 stars” deal and clearly gives the reviewer incentive to rate books highly even if she didn’t like them.

      I don’t mind people charging for beta services (though, again, I think you have to be GOOD at it to make people think you’re worth paying for over someone who’s free). I haven’t beta read myself, but reading a whole manuscript and offering insightful commentary SHOULD be a job that takes a lot of time, effort, and expertise. Honestly, I would consider paying someone I knew would 1) get the job done because we had a contract, not put it off because it’s just a hobby and not actually important to them and 2) give very good feedback. I would not pay an average reader to make bland comments like “I didn’t like the love interest.”

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      1. All the point you make I completely agree with. Awhile ago someone sent me their manuscript and asked if I could give them feedback. I was so honored at first that I agreed, but once I thought about it, I realized I just don’t have that level of time for unpaid work, you know?
        Yes, the donation thing bothers me. I think it’s a little strange – like asking for affirmation from the author that you did a good job, hence another paid service!

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  3. Love this post! When I first started blogging/reviewing my end goal was to eventually get paid for doing so – but not on my blog. I wanted to get some experience reviewing and be able to use it as like a portfolio and find some site that would pay me to write them there. I have since learned that I am just not that good at it and no one is going to pay me, but it’s something I enjoy so it’s a hobby for me now. I am not really against anyone trying to make a buck, but I know that when I saw a blogger I followed advertise 5 Star reviews I stopped trusting anything they said. It wasn’t just that they were charging for a review, but before even reading the book they were promising the review would be 5 stars. Lost all credibility to me at that point.

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    1. I think that a lot of bloggers have that same idea or at least hope it might happen, they might as you did, hope that they can use their blog as a stepping stone to becoming a paid reviewer or I’m guessing on rare occasions that someone might see their posts and offer them a chance as a paid reviewer. Not though that they charge on their blog for reviews.

      I’m not good at it either and know I’ll never make money through writing stuff. It’s obvious from this post that my style wouldn’t fit in anywhere and I’d have to clean it up!πŸ˜‚

      That’s terrible!!! You can’t offer a 5 star rating when you haven’t read the book! Even if it’s by an author you love or a series you enjoy you’ll hope it’s going to be a 5 star read but you don’t know that it will. Definitely no credibility there!

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  4. I missed the thread on FB about people charging for reviews and I’m pretty gobsmacked! I would never charge for a review! I would find it difficult to be objective if I was being paid. Reviewing is a hobby to me and it will stay that way. I have done some beta reading and again I have done this for free. I don’t consider myself qualified to charge for this service and I do it out of sheer enjoyment. I am currently training to be a proofreader and hope to turn this into a career eventually. I have proofread five novels so far … all for free. I am happy to do this for free as I am still learning and it is incredibly important to me to build up experience. In my mind charging for reviews is wrong unless you are a reviewer for a magazine, paper or such like. I hate the thought of authors who, let’s face it, unless they are very lucky do not make a fortune from their craft.
    Great post Drew!

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    1. Yeah, the FB thread, I think it was a week last Friday. It was only over one blogger though and they didn’t actually mention charging until they’d been contacted. But, from the comments on here there’s another blogger who charges for services and someone tweeted me saying they’d got an author friend who was asked for money to review their book by two bloggers too. So it seems to be out there.

      Gaining experience is definitely the right way to go, good luck with the proofreading.πŸ˜€

      I’m not up on beta reading, as you say you did it for free as you don’t consider yourself qualified and lots of other bloggers do it for free too. But, I always thought that there were people who did charge for beta reading, similar to editing and proof reading but they’d be qualified to do it not just someone with a book blog.

      I wouldn’t charge for reviews it’s a hobby and my reviews suck anyway but part of me understands that people might want to start charging for reviews to try and make a little money. I don’t agree with it but if the blog big and established then I understand it. It’s the people who want to start charging straight away and want to know if you can make money through book blogging when there blog is new with no followers, etc as obviously they are in it for the wrong reasons.

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  5. I don’t really have an issue if book bloggers want to monetize their blog by running ads on their sites. If they generate enough traffic to their blog to make decent money, then good luck to them. However, I’m wary about people who charge authors to review their books; the obvious concern is if you can trust their reviews to be honest.

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    1. Yeah, I did say ads and the affiliate links are fine in the post, I only skirted over it though as it is fine, if you can get some money that way then fair play.

      As you say, it’s the charging for reviews and not knowing if the review is honest or not as you can’t help but question the validity of an opinion when money is involved.

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  6. I get stressed enough about getting free books and agreeing to be on blog tours never mind being paid a fee. I’m always terrified I’ll hate the book and I just can’t bring myself to write a positive review for something I don’t like.

    I know a few indie authors in the UK who have been offered reviews in exchange for cash. $Γ— for 10 reviews, $x for 100 etc but no one is really desperate enough to go for it. Often the reviewer doesn’t even read the book, just copies the blurb and some bits from other reviews.

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  7. Cash for reviews!? That practically screams “UNTRUSTWORTHY” and seems rather uncouth as well… if you work for a media outlet (not a personal blog) then I can understand getting paid for your review because that’s kind of a freelance journalist type thing almost. The fact that an author or publisher sends out ARCs, finished copies, and even promotional swag is just a perk and isn’t something we bloggers should take for granted.

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    1. Yeah, it certainly does and sniggers at uncouth, some might also describe my blog post as uncouth!πŸ˜‚

      Oh, yeah, definitely, freelance stuff, etc, it’s fine but for a personal blog, nah, just doesn’t seem right and as you say, the free books are a perk.

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  8. No you can’t remain neutral when you get paid for a review.. I already sometimes feel a little guilty when I give ‘only’ 3 stars for a novel (yes I still rate novels, even if that still means I liked it, it doesn’t look like it’s enough). I do really like that I get some free books, but that’s okay isn’t it? I’m a book blogger, I just like to read and I certainly wouldn’t do it for the money πŸ™‚

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  9. Another great blog Drew!
    This came up a lot when I was reviewing metal, a lot! I did get paid occasionally but that was when I wrote reviews for magazines or websites who had budgets to hire freelancers and I did that work as part of my general freelancing work. My blog though I never monetised beyond affiliates and the occasional relevant ad, and as you point out all of that income has to be declared. Even as little as Β£5 has to go through HMRC.
    Now with the book blogging the same applies, I don’t take money, I have some affiliates, which I declare and earn peanuts from, and I’m actually in discussion with one of those right now about doing something more but I would never take money for a review.
    I feel that payment to a blogger for a review takes the objectivity away, I’ve seen people who’ve been paid for their reviews write terrible 5* reviews where there is no passion and where it even looks like they haven’t read the book in some cases. These are the reviews giving the rest of us a bad name I think. While we spend our time reading, taking notes, considering how to rate a book, and writing a carefully considered review they are churning reviews to make as much money as possible.
    And you are 100% right we are supposed to always declare when we have been given a book in return for a review. Its standard for any product.

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    1. Thank you.

      Thanks, I was sure that I was right about declaring where we got the books and as these books haven’t been released yet they sure as hell haven’t been bought by the blogger.πŸ˜‚

      Yeah, definitely some terrible 5 star paid for reviews out there, some of the paid for reviews on websites be they positive or negative are at times terrible too, no personality and so boring with no book details to even know if they’ve read the book or not.

      I bet some of these people who charge don’t declare payment!

      Oh, if it’s freelance work for magazines, websites, etc then it’s understandable getting paid, same for the affiliate links which was why I only skirted over those parts as they are fine, no issues. It’s the bloggers wanting to and changing for posts/reviews and new bloggers wanting to know if they can charge for reviews and how to make money, those are not questions a book lover would ask when starting a blog.

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      1. I completely agree, I don’t think book lovers go into blogging for the bottom line. Of course I think we all would love to make money from it so we could devote more time to it but that’s a pipedream! πŸ˜‚

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  10. Hmm this is a really interesting topic, thank you for posting about it, especially because it seems to be so controversial (as controversial as book blogging can be lol). I’ve been blogging for a few years and have never posted where I got the book from, and it’s normally sent to me by the publisher-yikes! Perhaps I should add that line in just to cover my butt.

    I always thought it would be difficult to garner a big enough following on a blog to make money off advertising, which is why I never started my blog for that reason. I suppose I’m one of the lucky ones who now gets paid to rreview books for other media sources, but I think I was given that opportunity because I used to work in publishing, not because of my blog πŸ™‚ anyway, this is a great discussion regardless, and will probably be ongoing for sometime.

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    1. Ha, there’s often a few controversial topics in book blogging, Y-A and diversity seem to be favourites and ARC’s is always a popular topic!πŸ˜‚

      Ah, I always thought we were supposed to state where the book came from if it was from Netgalley, an author or publisher, in exchange for an honest review, blah blah blah.πŸ˜‚

      Cool, that’s great to get paid to review for media sites.πŸ˜€

      I haven’t a clue about advertising, last I read you needed to earn Β£50 through the affiliate link before Amazon would pay out so I never bothered as I knew I’d never make that much.

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  11. I could never imagine accepting money for any post or review on a blog that is a hobby. I have to agree that this does certainly bring some credibility issues to light, albeit it is possible to be paid and and honest (anything is). But you are definitely right in the many concerns if brings to mind.

    With that said, my hat is off to anyone who can take a hobby or something that they love to do and turn it into an income. I would in a heartbeat if I could find a way to do so that did not conflict with my own ethics and morals or what I want for BVT. I would be a lying ass if I ever said that I would not enjoy making a living doing what I love. I think we each have our own personal reason for blogging, so unto each. But there is always a right and wrong.

    I may step on toes, but if a blogger charges for services, is open about it, and people are willing to pay, it is their prerogative πŸ˜‰ I just don’t follow if I do not like the content or manner it is being provided in.

    As for making mention of the publisher or author that provided a book, it is an absolute must!

    Great post πŸ™‚

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    1. Thank you.

      Apologies for the delay in replying. I was playing Horizon earlier and p#ssing about online as it’s been so hot in the UK and I thought I’d leave the comments until later when it was cooler and I could concentrate more (though it’s hardly any cooler and I don’t like what gggrr).πŸ˜‚

      I don’t see why you’d step on toes, if saying it’s their prerogative sends you to the naughty step I’ll be sat right their with you as I said it in the post!πŸ˜‚ It’s their choice, we can disagree with it but, their blog, their rules and upto them.

      Oh, it’s definitely possible to be paid and honest, that’s down to the honesty of the reviewer. I’m honest and if I got paid for this I’d still be the same, you would be too, etc and people who knew us and our blogs before we started charging would know that we are honest but, what about new followers, etc, they’d see paid reviews and surely they’d question the validity which could ruin the bloggers reputation anyway. Adding money certainly makes things murky and clouds the water.

      True, we all have our reasons for blogging. I’m not going to lie and say that I don’t love my free books because I sure do and they are a perk. For me, blogging was down to not knowing many people who read and in the start something to take my mind off my dog being put down, if I didn’t enjoy it or failed then it would have been no big deal but I surprisingly enjoyed it and while I’d like to get more comments and be a bigger part of the community overall I don’t think my blog is too bad. Money or the making of never came into the question when starting and being honest, making money shouldn’t be the reason anyone starts a book blog.

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      1. No need to apologize! I have been watching the nonhubs play Horizon as well. It is incredible. Too bad I get sick so easy trying to game now 😦 I miss it so much. I tried a week ago to pick up the PS and was a no go.

        Agree with you completely on all points πŸ™‚ The community is definitely the best perk of being a blogger and no one ever complains about more books haha πŸ˜‰

        Enjoyed the post a lot Drew. Stay cool my friend.

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      2. Yeah, I really miss gaming. It was a huge part of my life. I actually met the nonhubs while gaming online. We were raid leaders together. To go from putting in so many hours and being what most would label “hardcore” gamer haha to now squeezing in 15 to 20 minutes before nearly puking sucks 😦

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  12. I wrote about book blogs making money awhile ago, and while I don’t actually have a problem with it, I do think it’s difficult to do, you probably won’t make as much as you want, and paid reviews are not the way to go. 1) Yes, people are suspicious of paid reviews. And authors may be wary as well. Do you want to pay for someone to give you 1 star and bash your book? 2) So I think if bloggers *are* paid, it’s going to be for more curated content that the author/publisher has more control over. 3) It probably won’t be minimum wage. Honestly, it probably takes, let’s say, 6 hours of effort minimum to read, review, and promote a book on my social media channels. Are authors seriously going to pay me $50+ for my time, or offer like $10, or just go to someone who will review them free? 4) If paid books bloggers really do become a thing (and I think most of us don’t have large enough audiences to support it), it’s only going to be the biggest book bloggers. No one is going to pay someone who has 600 followers when they can use their money more wisely.

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    1. I think people are definitely suspicious of paid reviews, especially when you could find plenty of reviews for the book that are unpaid. It would be human nature to question the validity of the paid review as money makes things murky.

      Very true about it being the large book bloggers and part of me understands that people who have been blogging for a few years would want to try and make some money. It’s new bloggers who seem to think that they can make money straight away, if you’re a genuine book lover your first thought when you start a blog shouldn’t be ‘how can I make money’.

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      1. Agreed. I think in all blogging niches people see big, paid bloggers and assume it’s easy to become one, but it’s part really hard work and part luck.

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  13. Great post, Drew! I can’t imagine charging an author for a review. For one, there’s a level of sleaziness about it that doesn’t sit right to me, and also there’s an element of honesty about it that I feel like is being concealed. No doubt those people getting paid are not fully and totally disclosing that they’re charged for the review when they write it and post it. If I found out that my favorite reviewers were bringing in cash for reviews, I’d stop trusting them pretty quickly!

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    1. Yeah, very true, it was mentioned in a FB group that authors weren’t asked for a fee until they’d sent a review request and no where on the blog did it mention a fee, as you say, it’s underhand.

      Definitely an issue of trust when money is involved, can’t help but be cynical about it when you see so many great bloggers regardless of style doing it for free and then one getting paid, you’re bound to question the paid review.

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  14. I would love to make enough money from my blog to pay for the costs of running it, which are basically just my domain name at this point. But I know that that probably isn’t going to happen, so I’m taking it as a very inexpensive hobby! This sounds so cheesy, but the real reward is having an awesome community of people who actually read/read the same books I do. *Awwwww*

    I cannot believe that people would pay to have their books reviewed. There are so many respectable bloggers out there who will read and review your book for free. It makes me wonder why they need paid reviews so badly — do they have so little faith in their writing ability that they need to pay reviewers to make sure they get four or five stars?

    Great post, as usual!

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    1. Thank you.

      It might be cheesy but that’s true for a lot of us. I don’t know many people who read and wanted somewhere to share my thoughts on books, ergo, a book blog. Money never came into the question as I never imagined making any from it.

      That’s true, I don’t get why people would pay for a review when with a little effort they could find blogs who review for free.

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  15. Great post! In had no idea you were supposed to state where the book came from! I include a dialogue about the origin somwhere in my review but it’s more anecdotal than a declaration.

    Also a someone that organizes blog tours, it’s a hell of a lot of work and a lot of the time the payment doesn’t equal the level and amount of effort put in. That said, my touring company is separate from my blog. I wouldn’t dream of charging for reviews. That’s just tacky.

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    1. Thank you. I wasn’t having a go about blog tour organisers in the post, I just wanted to try and look at all aspects so it didn’t come across as simply an attack on bloggers who charge for posts/reviews.

      Yeah, if you get the book from Netgalley, an author or publisher then you’re supposed to say that you received it from them.

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  16. This post made me laugh, and it also raised some really great points. I know that personally, adding money to my blogging would compromise a lot of the fun I have just writing reviews for myself. Even as it is I’m very picky about ARCs and review requests, because I don’t like feeling indebted or obligated to someone else for what I post on my own blog, and sometimes it’s hard to be very honest with my criticism. But I suppose if someone wants to turn their blog into a job or a little review business I’d have no problem with it, as long as they’re not just selling 5 star reviews, but even then I just wouldn’t read their reviews or put my trust in them. I just don’t think I’m the type of person who would feel comfortable doing this stuff for money – I wouldn’t want the pressure. Books are how I escape the pressures of life.

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    1. Thank you.πŸ˜€

      I do try to add some humour in between attempting to make valid points.πŸ˜‚

      Yeah, that’s very true, books are escapism for me too and when you add money it takes away from the hobby and makes it something more.

      Each to their own and if people do want to charge for reviews it’s their choice, I do think accepting money would make me question the validity of the review though. Especially when you could find reviews of the same book on blogs that reviewed it for free.

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  17. I KNEW you’d use ‘Here comes the money’ in some way before I even started reading your post hahaha πŸ˜€

    That was definitely an interesting read – I haven’t really been up to date with the topic of making money & book blogging. I have my blog just for fun and am not after free copies or review requests. I think it would be hard to really state your true opinion if you are paid to write a review. Some people might feel pressure to say something positive and then it’s already not working^^

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    1. Ha, yeah, that just had to be included!πŸ˜‚

      That’s true as soon as you felt pressure to say something positive and then write it your true opinion is gone. I guess it can work but it depends on the blogger and how honest they are as money changes things especially if you only receive payment for a positive review.

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  18. I don’t know why I’m surprised that there are people out there who want to charge for reviews. That’s just crazy talk to me! I like what I do, but I don’t think I’d ever get paid for it. Don’t get me wrong, that would be amazing, but as you pointed out, if we all started to get paid for it, would our reviews be biased based on the pay.
    As always your blog made me laugh with your sarcastic tone of writing! πŸ™‚

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    1. Ha, the youth of today!πŸ˜‚ You shouldn’t really be surprised by anything that happens!

      Very true, it would be awesome to get paid but people use their blogs to hone their writing skills and gain experience to go onto paid writing, not actually charge on their blog, it’s supposed to be a stepping stone and experience.

      Thanks, definitely a sarcastic tone as always, adds to the fun.πŸ˜€

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      1. I know, and yet I still am, Ever. Single. Day. πŸ˜‚
        Yes! Exactly! That is where I’m at. I’m constantly writing, but it’s to get better. I feel like if I were to get paid for the things I write now, yikes, haha. Not to say that my writing is bad, but I know I can be better.
        You’re welcome! It sure does!

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  19. So this really got me thinking about YouTube. Because vloggers actually DO make quite a bit of money. But they don’t do it by accepting fees, but through advertising revenue. I think it is reasonable for a blogger, regardless of what kind of blog they run, to make money through advertisements.

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  20. Makes me want to roll my eyes when you get the feeling that a person has started their blog to make money. You know, you have to read the book first, right? Which can take a while, and then etc. I had honestly no idea what blogging was going to be like, and was going to teach me, but a year and a half later, as a writer myself, I just love helping other indie writers out. Money seems to make the whole thing gross. I’ve learnt as well writing reviews has been a great way to develop my own writing, and be confident in my opinions too. I guess there has to be ways you can run a book blog, and make money, but those I have seen seem overly glossy, slow to load, and lacking personality, which aren’t what I think about when I think about books. It’s about the experience.

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    1. Yeah, starting a blog for money is wrong. I can understand established bloggers looking into it but not someone who has only just started their blog and are asking about money straight away, just no.

      You have a point, I don’t think some people realise they need to read the book then again when you see reviews that don’t mention place or character names in them and have no distinguishing proof that the reviewer has read the book you question if they even have.

      Definitely agree about blogging making you confident in your opinions. Obviously I’ll never be a writer, I know that but I know that thanks to blogging I feel more capable of expressing my opinions in the written word than I did before as I certainly wouldn’t have written anything like this before I had a blog.

      Yeah, definitely some reviews and blogs lack personality. Personality is a big thing for me and I think that a person’s blog should reflect their own personality.

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  21. I think you’re stepping into dangerous territory when financial incentive is brought into book blogging. As you rightfully say, can we honestly review objectively if we’re being paid by the author to review their book? I think that’s the major difference between book bloggers and book reviewers who work for newspapers or magazines. If we demanded payment, we’re receiving said payment from the author themselves while people who review as their day job are paid by the newspaper or magazine they work for, thus meaning they’ll probably be more likely to review objectively because they’re not directly involved with the author. If that makes sense. That’s from a practical point of view.
    From a personal point of view, I would never charge for a book review simply because this is my hobby. The moment I begin asking for payment is the moment it stops being a hobby. When you’re being paid for a service, you’re required to meet deadlines and word counts etc and that zaps the fun out of it all. From a moral standpoint, though, is it right? I think the book blogging community is quite a supportive place, we’ve all got one another’s backs, and I think professional transactions between authors and bloggers would change the vibe of this community. As you said, a lot of indie authors write as a hobby and I’d feel beyond guilty if I were to suddenly start charging them. A lot of time and effort goes into the writing of books and I think that should be acknowledged with a fair, free review.
    You mention beauty and lifestyle bloggers and the money they receive. I’m not sure so sure if I’m correct in saying this, but I think a lot of those bloggers have YouTube channels where they get payment from people clicking on the adverts? I think they tend to do videos because with things like cosmetics, a lot of their followers want tutorials etc.
    Really interesting topic of discussion! πŸ˜€

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    1. Thank you, I do on occasion post halfway decent posts!πŸ˜‚

      That’s very true about money, as soon as it’s involved its no longer just a hobby.

      True, the book blogging community is a very supportive place, most of us have each others backs to some extent. I know there’s often drama with Y-A fans, damn kids kick off when people don’t like their precious hyped books and with diverse books too (I’m leaving that subject well alone) but in general, yeah, we are a decent bunch of loonies.πŸ˜‚

      I don’t know about the moral standpoint, that’s a debate. I’d say no, it isn’t right and even that it isn’t fair which could cause tension in the community. If you have bloggers that have been doing it for a while and have a decent following and decide to charge, new bloggers will kick off and then start charging too, how they do with ARC’s, they see older bloggers with them and they immediately want them too. Then on the flipside, older bloggers just do it as a hobby and enjoy it and you see new bloggers start up and immediately proclaim they are charging. It’s not right and would change the dynamic and vibe of the community.

      Yeah, I mentioned beauty and lifestyle bloggers, not things that I frequent! I presume they have blogs and YouTube channels. I don’t know about the payment, only what I read about payment and a sample product. I included it as I was trying to cover all the bases in the post so it came across as informative more than a vitriolic attack on people who do/want to charge.

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      1. Oh shush, you always post decent posts.
        Haha I’ve only come across those ‘damn kids’ on Tumblr (part of the reason I left that site, I know the exact types you mean!) I think on WP, we’re ‘a decent bunch of loonies’, but, for the most part, we’re mature enough to respect and support one another regardless of the books we read or methods we have of reviewing πŸ™‚
        Definitely it would change the dynamic and vibe of the community. I imagine some (and I say some, not all) of those charging would develop something of a superiority complex and deem their reviews ‘worthier’ simply because they were being paid.

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      2. Oh, I think we respect and support each other regardless of the books and review method, I agree with you on that Jabz, not too sure about the ‘mature’ bit though!πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

        Yep, agree with that too, could definitely see superiority complex coming into play and the whole ‘I’m better than you’ think also especially when some bloggers seem to have that complex anyway!

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  22. Drew this is a really great topic of discussion. I can’t even begin to want to charge someone for a book review. I love reading and that is why I do the blogging. I do have some Amazon ads though, but it doesn’t make a ton of money. And the money I make goes into buying more books or giveaway prizes to my followers. I just can’t seem to charge authors money to review or promote books, it doesn’t feel right. I feel good when I help authors promote thier books. I think it is important for them to get thier books out there to a larger audience and I believe in helping them spread the word. It is hard enough to get noticed. Anyway most authors and publishers are giving me ARC books anyway and to me that is payment enough.
    Great discussion! πŸ™‚

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    1. Thank you.

      Yeah, I don’t understand it either to be honest, I get wanting to try and make money but doing it by charging for reviews just seems wrong and to me, blogging is a hobby, it’s an extension of my love of reading and as soon as you add money into the mix it stops being a hobby and becomes something more.

      Amazon adds and affiliate links are fine, can’t see why anyone would have an issue with them on blogs.

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  23. You pulled another great discussion off! Well done… I agree that with money and the aim of profit muddies the waters and like many commenters above I wouldn’t even dream of charging for a review. Not a chance… I’ve done 3 beta reads with proper feedback reports and they took me days per each book but I did them because I wanted to help out and when the authors were grateful, I had a sense of achievement…. I would never even consider starting to offer BETA reading (editing/proofreading) as paid services because I have no education/certs/etc in this area… those who do and are freelance, sure… Paid *reviews* though? No… just no! They’re like pointless TV ads that nobody wants and are full of BS!

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    1. Cheers! I do on occasion write some not to bad posts!πŸ˜‚

      Lol, unfortunately there are lots of pointless TV ads around and TV shows for that matter!πŸ˜‚

      Yeah, it just seems really wrong and thankfully most wouldn’t which is good as it really is wrong, or at least to me. We blog, we read and review. We aren’t professionals and if we want to get paid then get a job as a paid reviewer if you really think you’re good enough not charge through your blog.

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  24. Great discussion! What’s with all of these people posting reviews before the book comes out? That is something the publisher always tells you not to do. Especially with Arcs. You can post on Netgalley where the publisher can use it on Amazon if they choose for advance hype. I think people stopped saying they got the book in exchange for a review when Amazon started pulling so many of those. Just state where you got the book on Amazon. We’ll assume its honest😊

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    1. Thank you.

      I’m not sure, I know generally you’re not supposed to post ARC reviews until near the release date but I guess it also depends when you get the book and when it’s released and even if the publisher OK’s it though I think bloggers just do what they want most of the time.πŸ˜‚

      Amazon never pulled any of my reviews – thankfully but regardless, we’re supposed to declare if we got the book for review otherwise it’s implied that we paid for it when we didn’t.

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  25. Great post! I haven’t heard that book bloggers were charging for reviews, and I’m totally surprised by this. I can’t imagine anyone paying for a review when there are plenty of bloggers out there willing to do it for free. Unless maybe those paid bloggers have massive followings and promote nonstop on social media. But doing something like that feels false to me. Are they promoting the book and writing a good review because they honestly liked it or just to stay in the payers good graces?
    And I’m always surprised when an ARC review is posted months before the book is released – I always wait until the publish date or a few days after to post my review.
    Great post and I’ll be interested to read all the comments and see what others say about this issue. I’m certainly interested to see if anyone comments about how much people are charging for this…

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    1. I think with ARC’s you can post the review when you want, even if you’re supposed to leave it until near to the actual release date. I posted an ARC review 6 weeks before a books release once but asked the publisher if that was OK and it was. Lots of bloggers just do what they want.πŸ˜‚

      I think release date comes into it as well and the different release dates in countries. Blackwing is released in the UK at the end of July and there’s lots of reviews out for it, mine should be up soon too but anyone checking out one of the reviews and thinking the book is out soon from the US will be waiting as it isn’t out until October.

      There’s only a few bloggers – I think, that charge but more seem to be looking into it and on FB a few people wanted to know if and how you make money through book blogging straight after starting a blog, just seemed wrong to me asking that straight away.

      That’s very true, money clouds the water and even if it’s a book that’s loved by all, a paid review would make you question if the blogger really did like it or not.

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      1. I always look at the “fine print” on the ARCs I get (that first page that has all the technical stuff about the book), and they almost always say that reviews should be scheduled to run after the pub date. But they also say “do not quote for publication” and I know a lot of bloggers pull quotes out of the ARCs. I try not to unless the book’s writing is different in some way, as the ARC could be different from the final version.
        And yeah, it’s hard when there are different publish dates for different countries. Too hard to keep track of! I just go off the US publish date since that is where I am. But I doubt anyone really, truly cares about a review that posts early.
        I’m still totally baffled why any blogger would feel that they could and should charge for a review. Ads and affiliate links are one thing, or if you are writing for a professional magazine/newspaper, but I can’t imagine talking to an author via email and asking them for money….

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      2. I have to admit I don’t usually look at the fine print on ARC’s but as you say, I doubt anyone cares when the reviews are posted.

        Yeah, I’d noticed the ARC quote thing to and had seen how it says ‘not for quotation’ on the ARC’s, which I generally don’t do as the book could change.

        Luckily most bloggers can’t imagine asking for money for a review, the whole concept still seems weird to me.

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  26. Thanks for raising the issue. An important thing to note is that Commercial (paid) Reviews are not permitted on some websites. This includes Goodreads. It’s also awkward when you get to know another author via social media. I have erred in the side of caution and added a disclaimer to say the author is a acquaintance.

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  27. This is such a rude post that I can’t help snickering away. I recently spoke to an Indian indie author who wanted to know how much I charged for a review. When I told her that good bloggers normally don’t charge she seemed worried because shed paid some people for a review. I totally lost it because those bloggers in question were so new that there didn’t seem to be any traffic on their blog or any interactions on their social media. Just for money. Ah! How I love this post Drew! Brilliantly written.

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    1. Rude post?!? I thought that I was quite polite!πŸ˜‚

      Not surprising! I’ve seen a few new bloggers on FB asking about making money through book blogging and how much they should charge for their reviews! Just no, as you say good bloggers normally don’t charge.

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  28. hahahaha this made me laugh so much!!! I totally agree with your sentiments here!! I can’t believe this is even a question!! And I’m one of those people that finds ARCs more stressful than the reward most of the time, so I rarely, rarely do them- so the idea of getting paid for doing reviews… I just can’t imagine the stress!!! I do this to unwind and for fun lol.
    PS Nice Only Fools and Horses reference, eh Rodders πŸ˜‰
    PPS if the person that’s running the black market on books contacts you with winds of winter, let me know, it could be very profitable… hehehe see- now we know how to make money from blogging- we just need to hotwire George R R Martin’s brain!!!

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    1. Only Fools and Horses for the win, though I had to mention the show by name just in case the kids hadn’t heard of it and didn’t get the reference!πŸ˜‚

      The black market blogger is probably a hair dresser as I’m sure Winds of Winter is hidden in GRRM’s beard and Rothfuss has a bushy beard too, someone safe to keep the books!πŸ˜‚

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      1. hehehee fortunately my parents gave me a proper tv education πŸ˜‰

        hahahahaha it’s a conspiracy!! That’s what it is!! They all write their books and then hide them in their beards!! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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  29. Great article, Drew.

    A couple of things I think that your article brought to the forefront of my mind.

    I have always disclosed how and where I received a book unless I bought it myself.

    It annoys me when Goodread-ers get an Arc, but just give a star rating, no reviews, and no mention of how they got it early and if they even have a blog at all. (I check out their profiles too).

    Advertising isn’t going to let anyone quit the day job when blogging soon. I was advised that a popular blog which gets 100k hits a month will make approx 60 quid that same month.

    All the best reviewers I know wouldn’t and are very anti-payment for reviews. If someone asks for ££, unless from magazines or professional websites, ignore then. Many reviewers will do a better job for free.

    Professional reviews seem perfectly written, short, safe, and with no personality.
    For an author, try and get reviews from author peers, known genre specific bloggers or influential Goodreaders. I would only go for paid reviewers if you get a publisher and it’s up to them to pay.

    Sorry for taking over your comment wall pal. Lol x

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    1. 100,000 views per month?!?!?!? Damn! Most blogs are no where near that figure after years let alone per month!

      Ha, your not alone! I’m mega crap at updating Goodreads and going on there but when I actually do go on and check out reviews, I have to see if the person has a blog when it’s an ARC review/rating and then end up questioning how they got the ARC when they don’t even have a blog!

      Then again, I guess it’s the whole Netgalley accepting requests from people who don’t read that genre of books thing and subsequently hating on the books for containing things that are core aspects of that genre – which really annoys the hell out of me!

      Most of us disclose where we get the books from, unless we did buy them as you are supposed to. But, I’d seen a couple of reviews (Blackwing and A Court of Broken Knives) that didn’t state how they got the book and as neither have been released they obviously didn’t buy them!πŸ˜‚

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  30. Another excellent post Drew πŸ™‚

    “The big question is if we start charging for reviews, can we really continue to review objectively?!?”

    Like you, I say it is POSSIBLE, but probable? Probably not. Unfortunately, many people are not as honest as you and I. While I think being paid to review a book for some type of magazine, newspaper, or website is fine as you are being paid by the magazine, newspaper, or website for the review, versus the author themselves. I personally do not think it’s ethical to write a review in exchange for money from the author, nor would I trust these reviews. I actually never even thought about charging for blog space (author features, excerpts, guest posts, etc)… I guess I don’t necessarily see anything wrong with this, as long as there is no review involved. Not my style, but I don’t think it is ethically wrong…

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    1. Thank you.πŸ˜€

      Yeah, I totally agree, it is possible but yeah, probably not. True again, not everyone is honest, sadly, most bloggers are but there’s bound to be a few who aren’t as it’s just how it is.

      Oh definitely, if you’re paid for a magazine, etc, then it’s all good but no, not for just posting on your blog.

      I’m not sure if people charge for blog space, I’m sure I’ve read that some do but I was just trying to cover all aspects for the post. It’s offering your blog space to an author/their book and its advertising, you’re advertising the author and their book and people pay for advertising but…..as you say it’s not ethically wrong (that’s the point I was trying to make in the post) as there is no review, no thoughts being clouded by money, it’s just blog space but definitely not my style either!

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  31. I think I can understand why someone would want to make money of blogs , Maybe someone is financially in a tough spot but loves to read and thinks that blogging can be a source for some financial help .

    That said I do agree with what you said regarding money making things messier and obviously leads people into questioning your integrity as a reviewer .

    Maybe a way for these reviewers would be to find a way to allow Ads on their respective blogs . This will allow them to review books with all honesty as the money gained will be constant for every post via the ads and there would be no chance of any sort of bias . I don’t know if that’s a feasible idea but it does seem like a logical one to me.

    Once again another fantastic discussion post , love reading them Drew and a thumbs up to the Shane O’mac tune , I haven’t watched wrestling for a long long time but that tune is still fresh in my mind and made me sport a grin with nostalgia πŸ™‚

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    1. It’s definitely a logical idea but I’m not sure how much revenue it’d bring in to the blog. Someone said that a big blog with 100,000 page views a month gets around Β£60 through adverts and most of us get no where near that amount of views, ever, in total!

      Thanks.πŸ˜€ Ha, I had to include the Shane O’Mac tune, it just screamed to be included! You’re not missing much by not watching wrestling, it’s not what it used to be.πŸ™

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      1. Wow , just 60? That’s a surprise for me , I thought people earned a lot from ad revenues , well in that case the poor bloke who want to make money should maybe try to become a professional critic for some newspaper

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